From: Doug Dysart KASPAROVCHESS COM> Date: 11 apr 2000 Subject: Re: A funny thing happened in Cincinnati
Tha= nks for the comments on draws.  Larry-san made some insightful
= comments, and I have some questions about them.

>A rule that is often used in amateur shogi events, which I personal= ly
>favor, is to have all jishogi games decided by whoever is ahead on =
>points, regardless of how much, with white winning in case of a tie=
>score (27-27) and white getting credit for his removed pieces in a =
>handicap game. =A0So the only draws are repetition, which are more =
>practical to replay than jishogi games (since they already take >forever). =A0


Good points, Larry-san.  You know, I've heard that you need to get= 28
points.  Then I heard you need 24 points.  Gosh, I guess I'd = better
take notes so there's no confusion in the future!

Now, as for repetition, I'm of course confused.  Many times I've b= een
in discussions on this matter.  From what Japanese people have tol= d
me, the ruling in this situation very much depends on where you're
= playing and who is running the tournament.  Most TDs, I've heard, =
score a 4-time repetition as a LOSS for the "attacker," but t= hen
there can be much controversy over who is actually the "attacker&q= uot; and
who's the "defender," and do these names encompass the ENTIRE=
position, or just the situation involving someone's king in perpetual <= BR> check.  UGH!!  How confusing!!

>Whether repetition games are replayed or scored as 1/2 varies from =
>event to event; in elimination tournaments they must of course be <= BR> >replayed, but in Swiss system events I see no need for this. =A0
An interesting situation.  I vote for replays, but then, that's consistent with my world view of "no draws, no ties, no discussion= ."

>USSF policy has been not to rate draws. =A0Draws by agreement shoul= d
>only be allowed if the two players are agreeing that the
>game will end in a jishogi draw, but if the above rule is adopted <= BR> >then this situation will not exist.

That's deep.






Doug Dysart
Ohio Shogi Club founder



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