From: DANERUD MARTIN <martin.danerud <at> TELIA <dot> COM>
Date: 25 apr 2003
Subject: I like Japanese people

Do not misunderstand this e-mail intentionally: I like Japanese people.

Dear Leon, 

There is of course a possibility to contact Japanese people in South Africa. But if you want shogi to become a game among the South Africans, then you should first create a strong national shogi organisation in your country. Otherwise, you will end up like our dear friends in America, acting in the best case as an organiser of spare time activities for Japanese expatriots. Of course, the Japanese will contribute with a lot of shogi strength, but as soon as there is a chance, they will move into Japanese restaurants, play and speak Japanese among themselves. There is nothing wrong with that and it is quite natural, but it will never result in any viable South African shogi activity. 

Follow my advice. It has worked well in Sweden. We have more than one hundred Swedish citizens as members of the Swedish Shogi Federation. The choice is yours.

Sincerely yours, 

Martin Danerud

President of the Swedish Shogi Federation 

> Is you club not interested in Shogi?  I heard there are about 1,000 Japanese
> people living in Johannesburg.  If you could publicize it around the
> Japanese community, I am sure you will find some players to play Shogi.
> 
> Chiaki
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leon Errol Lipschitz" <lippy <at> NETACTIVE <dot> CO <dot> ZA>
> To: <SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Play Makrk and Korean chess
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the info
> > Will check it out
> >
> > Is anyone out there from South Africa
> > Would like to get to gether with then and form a club in Johannesburg
> >
> > Thanks once again
> >
> > Leon
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Shogi Discussion List
> > [mailto:SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL]On Behalf Of Sam Sloan
> > Sent: 24 04 2003 16:23
> > To: SHOGI-L <at> TECHUNIX <dot> TECHNION <dot> AC <dot> IL
> > Subject: Re: Play Makrk and Korean chess
> >
> >
> > I have the rules for Makrook or Thai Chess on my website at
> > http://www.shamema.com/makrook.htm
> >
> > Sam Sloan
> >
> > At 07:21 AM 4/24/2003 -0400, 'Gary Whelan' wrote:
> > >Try these:
> > >
> > >http://www.chessvariants.com/oriental.dir/thai.htm
> > >l
> > >
> > >http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/afi/koreanch.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >seems that this notice has come just at the right
> > >time for me
> > >We are starting a Chinese chess club here in
> > >south Africa and one of the
> > >games that ha some up is Makrk and Korean chess
> > >
> > >Have a book on chess variations by Gollan but his
> > >rules omits a great deal
> > >of the correct moves
> > >
> > >I am look ing fro a official set of rules  for
> > >the game
> > >Can anyone help me out please
> > >
> > >Please if possible could you email me directly at
> > >lippy <at> netactive <dot> co <dot> za if
> > >possible as well as sending it to the list
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Leon
> > >
> > >
> > >
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