From: E R webtv net> Date: 26 aug 2004 Subject: Re: Professional shogi game time management --WebTV-Mail-15853-1591 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Save up to 80% on Inkjet & Toner Supplies. 100% Satisfaction=20 Guarantee. Free Shipping on orders over $49. www.inksoutlet.com http://click.topica.com/= caacAsfa2i6YsbnuqMaa/Inksoutlet ------------------------------------------------------------------- What would be the rating of such a chess player? Shogi doesn't use number ratings like ELO ratings for chess, does it? Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Stories from the Civil Rights Movement. Extraordinary stories,=20 ordinary people. 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Free Shipping on orders over $49. www.inksoutlet.com http://click.topica.com/= caacAsfa2i6Ysbn8jDxa/Inksoutlet ------------------------------------------------------------------- On 2004.8.26, at 05:33 PM, Reijer Grimbergen wrote: > 1) Unlike chess players, shogi professionals do not trust their=20 > preparation. I have often heard and read that shogi professionals need= =20 > the deep concentration over the board to really understand a position. > 2) Shogi openings are much more subtle than chess openings. An edge=20 > pawn pushed or not, changing the order of certain moves, entering the=20 > castle in a different way can all have an important impact on the=20 > position. I am rather surprised that Reijer should make these generalizations.=20 How does he know that chess players trust their preparation and that=20 chess openings are much less subtle than shogi openings? Unless you=20 have an equally deep understanding of chess and shogi, such assertions=20 are little more than prejudices. I would be very interested to hear=20 Larry Kaufmann's views on the above. Richard Sams Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsor a child today through Children International.=20=20 Give a desperately poor child hope for a brighter future. For only $18 a month you can make a difference! http://click.topica.com/= caacvgoa2i6Ysbn8jDxf/ChildrenInternational ------------------------------------------------------------------- --WebTV-Mail-15853-1591--