From: Bruce Lindsey <balindsey <at> yahoo <dot> com>
Date: 4 may 2006
Subject: Re: Jubanshogi?

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The Jubango handicap system used in go uses
alternating handicaps as follows:

tagaisen:  even match (alternate black-white)

sen-ai-sen:  weaker takes black in 2 of 3 games

josen:  weaker takes black in all games

sen-ni-sen:  weaker takes black twice, two-stone
handicap once in 3 games

ni-sen-ni:  weaker takes two-stone handicap twice,
black once in 3 games.

joni:  weaker takes two-stone handicap all games

ni-san-ni:  three-stone handicap once, two-stone
handicap twice in 3 games.

san-ni-san:  three-stone handicap twice, two-stone
handicap once in 3 games.

jo san:  three-stone handicap all games

etc, etc.

I was wondering more about the ten-game match
tradition and if it existed in shogi than about the
handicaps, but the elaborate handicap system used in
Jubango intrigued me, too.


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> > I was reading at Sensei's Library about the
> Jubango
> > tradition ...
> >
> > http://senseis.xmp.net/?JubangoHandicaps
> >
> > ... and was wondering if a similar tradition has
> ever
> > existed in shogi?
> >
> > Especially, I was wondering at how shogi would
> handle
> > the very fine handicap distinctions used in
> Junbango
> > matches, since "regular" handicaps in shogi
> *already*
> > used (some) alternating handicaps.
> >
> > Anyone know?  I googled for "jubanshogi" and got
> > nothing.  Perhaps there was a similar tradition
> with a
> > different naming convention?
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