From: Manabu Terao <manabu.terao <at> mx3 <dot> ttcn <dot> ne <dot> jp>
Date: 13 may 2006
Subject: Definition of 'Higher ranked player'(Was: More for Manabu Terao)

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Hello,

Before answering the question, I revised the subject as above since this
will be archived at http://www.shogi.net/shogi-l/Archive/ and=20
http://lists.topica.com/lists/shogi/read , and I thought the revised title=
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will represent the contents of the message better for people who will use
those archives later.

It's a good and tough question to answer. I think there is no publication
for NSR to clearly define which player is a higher ranked player.

As far as I think of, there are four ranking systems in the professional=
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shogi world such as the relation between a title holder and a challenger=
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in a title match, ranking in Juni-sen, Dan grade, and Ryuoh-sen ranking.

I believe that a title holder is always considered a higher ranked player
against a challenger in a title match. And I guess the ranking in Juni-sen
is applied in most other cases than title matches and Ryuoh-sen. But I'm no=
t
sure.

The shogi scoresheet which NSR have used does fields for neither which=20
player is a higher ranked player nor which player uses Osho/Gyokusho. So=
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their recordkeepers have not recorded which player used Gyokusho at all.

Manabu Terao

Aquinaswannabe <at> hotmail <dot> com wrote:

> Sorry again for addressing you in a public forum.
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> My question is this: when you wrote, "higher ranked player uses Osho,"=
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> by "rank" you're referring to the Dan (=1B$BCJ=1B(B) in Shogi skill gradi=
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> of a player, correct?
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> Manabu Terao wrote:
> >=20
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > No, he doesn't. It does not have anything to do with whether Sente or=
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> > Gote. It is a custom that a higher ranked player uses Osho.=20
> > However, an older player sometimes uses Osho even if he is lower ranked=
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> > when a younger player shows his respect for seniority.
> >=20
> > Manabu Terao
> >=20
> > > Does the player who has plays first (the player who is Sente) always=
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> > > uses the Jade General (=1B$B!&%N%"=1B(BN, Gyokusho), while the player=
 who=20
> > > plays=20
> > > second (the player who is Gote) always uses the King General=20
> > > (=1B$B!"=1B(B=FD=1B$B%"=1B(BN,=20
> > > Osho)?=20


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