From: Reijer Grimbergen <grim <at> yz <dot> yamagata-u <dot> ac <dot> jp>
Date: 22 aug 2007
Subject: Re: Universal Shogi Interface (japanese Dot.Net Programs)


Hi Bernard,

There definitely is a problem with running Shogidokoro on a non-Japanese=
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Windows machine. The website says the program needs Microsoft .NET=20
Framework 2.0 to run, but this is only true for Japanese Windows. When I=
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tried to install Shogidokoro on an English Windows XP, it crashed just=20
like you said.

I will try to contact the author about this to try and solve the=20
problem. I am also planning to contact the author about a version where=20
at least the GUI is in English (translating the long explanation on the=20
website is not going to be so easy, though...). Problem is that there is=
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no contact link on the website (no name, no mail), so I am waiting for a=
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reply on Yamashita's BBS at the moment.

Reijer


Bernhard C. M=E4rz wrote:

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> Hi,
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> This program looks great ...
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> ... but it didn't work on my computer.
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>>Shogidokoro should run on WindowsXP/2000 according to the page through=
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>>the URL Reijer pointed out.
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> Maybe it need also a Japanese Windows???
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> I have tested Shogidokoro at 3 different computers (2x XP professional=
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> and 1x XP home).
> At one computer I got an error message ("Shogidokoro has problems and=20
> must be ended. Do you like to inform Microsoft ...") and at the other=20
> two computers the process simply disappeared after a few seconds.
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> I'm really experienced with "japanize your western windows" and after=20
> some time I even found the option "Language for programs without=20
> UNICODE-Support" with which Japanese works very well. (I believe only=20
> Java didn't use this option in non-UNICODE-Controls and in such programs=
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> there is still something to do.)
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> Also there is one more program with the same problems as Shogidokoro:=20
> MyBona.exe
> MyBona.exe didn't work with the same error description. I didn't took=20
> too much attention at it, because there are good other GUIs for Bonanza.=
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> (But still I wondered, why it's not working.)
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> But now it seems (in  my eyes), that the problem is Dot.NET for Japanese=
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> programs in western windows.
> Of course I had installed the correct Version of Dot.NET (simply testing=
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> it by renaming the "C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727"=20
> directory I got a message that this version of Dot.NET is missing).
> Also I had tried the language pack for Dot.NET without success.
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> Is there somebody with nonjapanese window where Shogidokoro and MyBona=
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> are working?
> Can somebody help me, please?
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> For MyBona it was not so important, but I really like to get Shogidokoro=
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> working and maybe this will be really the start of a similar success=20
> story happened with Arena (or even X-/WinBoard) in the chess world.
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> By the way: are there plans for Shogidokoro to support different=20
> languages (at least English - which should be enough)? ;-)
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> Thanks,
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> Bernhard
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Reijer Grimbergen
Department of Informatics, Yamagata University
Jonan 4-3-16, Yonezawa, 992-8510 Japan
Tel: +81-(0)238-26-3740  FAX: +81-(0)238-26-3299
http://gamelab.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/


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